Skip to content
City PM
  • Germany
  • France
  • Europe
  • Markets
  • Business
  • Opinion
  • DE
  • Germany
  • France
  • Europe
  • Markets
  • Business
  • Opinion
  • DE
Monday 20 October 2025 12:00 am  |  Updated:  Sunday 19 October 2025 3:12 pm

Oaktree Capital co-founder voice doubts that macroeconomic fears caused gold’s rally

By: Maisie Grice

Investment Reporter

Add as a preferred source on Google
Gold bars on a table
The Iran conflict has upended the demand for gold

Howard Marks, co-founder of investment firm Oaktree Capital, has voiced his scepticism over gold’s rallying run, believing economic conditions have not caused the surge and there is “no intelligent way to assess the intrinsic value”.

Speaking on The Master Investor podcast with Wilfred Frost, Marks attributed the precious metal’s long standing run to popularity, believing the recent surge in gold price has been driven by investors feeling the pressure to secure the asset in fears of missing out on the rally.

In turn, this fresh wave of demand pushes the price even higher.

Marks said: “In the short run it’s [the market] a voting machine. It reflects popularity.

“And gold is having its day in the sun now with great popularity. So I think that’s the main reason.”

Marks went on to dismiss claims that the rally has primarily been caused by wider macroeconomic fears, including ongoing geopolitical tensions and the strength of the dollar.

Speaking on these concerns, he added: “Well, if that were true, then would the stock market be at an all time high? And would the world’s currencies be relatively stable?

“People are worried about the dollar…the dollar’s been stable for six months.

“So I don’t think you can make that point.”

Gold hit record highs earlier this week, trading at $4,379 per ounce on Friday, with the price soaring 65 per cent this year to date, putting its gain ahead of most major asset classes.

Goldman Sachs predicts this rally is unlikely to end anytime soon, forecasting the price of the metal to hit $4,900 dollars by the end of 2026.

Read more

Gold set for worst quarter in over 10 years as retail interest cools

Investors have been piling into gold for several reasons (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)

Assessing the value

Marks also argued that gold has no intrinsic value due to its inability to grow or generate income, leaving supply and demand driven by investor sentiment the only way to determine asset’s price.

He said: “It doesn’t produce cash flow so you can’t talk about what the right price is…I mean what’s the right price for an ounce of gold?

“There is no intelligent way to assess the intrinsic value.

“You can invest in gold because you’re scared, you can invest in gold because you’re aggressive…you just can’t do it analytically because you can’t tell me what the right price is.”

Mag 7 and S&P 500

Alongside questioning gold’s strength, Marks was also cautious on the performance of markets, believing investor’s behaviour has been skewed by an extended period of positive returns, leaving them to be less cautious with their investment options.

He said: “Risk taking has been rewarded, caution has been penalised.

“I would say that it has made people feel it’s more dangerous to be out of the market than in.”

However, his concerns did not touch upon the highly valued Magnificent 7 stocks, which include Apple and Microsoft, believing the valuations to be justified, hailing them as some of “greatest companies” due to their “huge profitability”.

Yet, he is concerned about the remaining 493 S&P 500 companies, believing their valuations are unjustified and are trading too high.

He concluded: “Why should the other 493, which are much more mortal, be selling at PE [price to earning] ratios above the historic average for the S&P over the last 80 years?”

Read more

Gold prices glitter amid geopolitical uncertainty

Gold jewelry displayed in Indian market as gold price hits record $5,097 amid Trump tariff turmoil and investor demand

Share this article

  • Facebook
  • X
  • LinkedIn
  • WhatsApp
  • Email

Similarly tagged content:

Sections

  • News

Categories

  • Business
  • Investing
  • News

People & Organisations

  • amazon
  • gold
  • Gold price
  • Howard Marks
  • Oaktree Capital Management
  • S&P 500
  • UK economy
  • UK Government

Related Topics

  • gold
  • Gold prices
  • Goldman Sachs
  • investment
  • investment banking
  • investment platform
  • Investment trusts
  • investors
  • Retail investing
  • UK investments
  • UK stocks

Trending Articles

  • Burnham tax plans spark investor rush to bank capital gains

  • Nothing fails to file accounts months after dissolution threat

  • I’ve taken the best train trips in the world. Here are my 5 favourites

  • Cruyff turn: Starmer allows pubs to stay open for England World Cup game

  • Nottingham Forest owner Marinakis announces £210m stadium plans

More from City PM

  • Gold set for worst quarter in over 10 years as retail interest cools

    Markets
    Investors have been piling into gold for several reasons (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)
  • Gold prices glitter amid geopolitical uncertainty

    Investing
    Gold jewelry displayed in Indian market as gold price hits record $5,097 amid Trump tariff turmoil and investor demand
  • Blow to AIM as pawnbroker Ramsdens snapped up by US giant for £206m

    Retail
    Cash-strapped Brits flogging their valuables for money has helped profit at pawnbroker Ramsdens grow by eight per cent. 
  • Record number of central banks plan to increase gold holdings amid global volatility

    Investing
    Investors have been piling into gold for several reasons (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)
  • Ocado to replace founder Steiner as shares plunge 

    Retail
    Ocado and Openreach lead push against Congestion charge for electric vans
  • Wimbledon: Majority of £350,000 debentures sold to overseas fans

    Sport Business
    Previews: The Championships - Wimbledon 2026
  • As it happened: Stocks and oil recover as Iran declares end to strikes; tech rally rocks markets

    Markets
    Breaking news graphic with headline text, featuring a digital world map and icons symbolizing global connectivity
  • Mark Kleinman: Share price slump moves Steiner closer to Ocado checkout 

    Business
    Mark Kleinman is Sky News' City Editor and writes a column for City PM

City PM — European politics, business and analysis.

Europe

  • Germany
  • France
  • Europe
  • UK & Ireland

Topics

  • Business
  • Markets
  • AI
  • Technology
  • Opinion
  • Energy

More

  • Politics
  • Economics
  • Fintech
  • Legal
  • Sport
  • Life

Company

  • About City PM
  • Editorial Policy
  • Corrections
  • Contact
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
© 2026 City PM · Published by CityPM Media, Bahnhofstrasse 65, 8001 Zürich, Switzerland
About · Editorial Policy · Corrections · Contact · Privacy